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Post by Cem on Oct 23, 2007 21:30:16 GMT -5
I've changed a lot over a fairly short period of time too and it is possible I agree, but I don't see Amy and Ty making thoses chages so very quickly, Amy more so than Ty. They were both very grounded people who knew what they wanted and what mattered to them before Amy left for college. Then about 7/8 months later (or what ever it is) Amy cares a massive amount about how she looks and wants to dress up a lot, go out and party a lot which she never did before, it didn't really matter to her. Ty becomes a total coward and a jerk by not telling Amy about Heather, which I think is stupid because Ty is a good decent guy who hates to lie to or hurt the people he cares about, but he keeps something this big from her and lets her find out by seeing him kiss Heather at a party, therefore hurting her a lot? I don't think they'd change like that, not that quickly. If Amy had been at college 2 or 3 years and was caring a lot more about looks and stuff I'd find it more believeable. I still don't think it would happen, but I could believe it more. But I don't think Ty would ever hurt and upset Amy like he did in A Winters Gift. He still cares a lot about her, even if it is just as a friend, he should never have been that much of a jerk to her. Ty spending a lot of time with his friends, including going on a road trip with them, I find really odd but it could happen. The fact that he seems to be spending much more time away from Heartland with Hearther and his friends is very odd to me because he's so dedicated to Heatland and the work there. But if that had been the only change I'd probably be fine with it even though I think its odd.
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Post by horsemystique on Oct 24, 2007 19:30:59 GMT -5
Ty loves Amy. Ty loves Amy. Ty loves Amy. Ty loves Amy. I'm not in denial, it's just a fact. Ty LOVES Amy! *gasps* Maybe this change is a side effect from his accident. Hey, it could happen. But I will not accept the fact that the love they shared is completely gone.
Also, I have a new fanfic, about this very plot. Yeah, I know. I haven't even read the book and I'm thinking of writing a story about it. But it will be better than AWG. Would anyone like to read it?
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Post by rainpaint on Oct 25, 2007 16:43:21 GMT -5
"Amy loves Ty. Ty loves Amy. Amy loves Ty.' LOL!!! I LOVE IT!!! And I agree completely. If denial keeps us from driving to Lauren Brooke's house (or flying, whatever) and telling her what we REALLY think about her new books, then that's GREAT!!!
I agree completely that people CAN change in a short period of time. I'm not the same person I was at the beginning of the summer...thank God (literally) I'm not the same person I was four years ago. But I think what we all dislike about the new books is that we were completely happy with the way "Always There" ended. They were cantering off into the sunset, and our minds were allowed to figure out the rest. But then Lauren Brooke had to go and tell us what happened. *scowl* Like I was saying before, I think that's why I can relate more to Amy, because she's going through new experiences and she is away from familiarity. Still, she always came across as being very grounded in who she was and what she stood for. She was completely out of whack in BtH.
But I think I was even more upset by the way Ty changed, especially in his attitude toward Amy. He was the one who was there for her through all the tragedy. He stuck by her, believed in her, loved her at her worst. And he took his time with their relationship. But then he seemed to just let it go. (haha maybe that's why I made it Amy's fault in my fanfic) And then he's dating this new girl who he met on a trail ride, and suddenly he's kissing her? I have to say, the mere thought of Ty kissing another girl makes me want to barf.
LOL my sister and I were at the mall today and she wanted to look at the new book in the bookstore because she's cruel like that (haha really, she just likes to tease me about my obsessions, but she has plenty of her own!) and I absolutely refused to look at it or let her tell me ANYTHING about it. Well, she did tell me that Grandpa and Nancy get engaged, which made me happy. But like I said before, denial is good! I can't run from the book forever, I know, but it'll be good while it lasts. But when it's over I will officially go insane.
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Post by Cem on Oct 25, 2007 17:18:07 GMT -5
Very well said Rainpaint. Everything you said about Amy and Ty and the changes is exactly how I feel.
And I know all about that feeling of having changed a lot and thinking 'Thank God - literally!' I am a completely different person to the one I was two years ago, and I'vew changed a heck of a lot in the last year alone.
Nancy and Jack getting engaged in AWG is the highlight of the book I think. Its the only thing in either of the two special editions that makes total sense and that I'm truely happy about.
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Post by rainpaint on Dec 5, 2007 19:59:20 GMT -5
Does AWG mention Holly, Lou and Scott's daughter, at all? She should be a couple months old by then.
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Post by Cem on Dec 5, 2007 21:50:44 GMT -5
Yeah it does. She has her own pony (well, sort of! lol) who is apparently the spitting image of Sugarfoot. Who I might add, isn't mentioned. I think he must have died, thats the way it seems anyway, based on how the new pony is talked about.
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Post by rainpaint on Dec 6, 2007 20:08:12 GMT -5
Aw, that's so sad...I guess the EPM caught up with old Sugarfoot.
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Post by Cem on Dec 7, 2007 8:14:35 GMT -5
Yeah I guess so. And yeah, its very sad!
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Post by Cem on Aug 6, 2008 14:24:02 GMT -5
UK release date for A Winters Gift: 1st September 2008. Just in case there is anyone who wanted to know.
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Post by Eevee on Aug 7, 2008 14:15:31 GMT -5
But you have to see from Ty's point of view. He may be down to earth and such, but he's not immune to emotional pain. He doesn't let people know what he's feeling. It was Amy who listened to him, but she left to college. Heather's obviously just some filler Lauren Brooke added, but to Ty, she may be the release for pent up emotion. Even if Ty loves Amy, he believes he has to move on, though we all know they WILL get back together. I've got proof. Read below.
"I asked Lauren Brooke a question through CBC several weeks ago. Guess what happened? SHE ANSWERED IT! I was one of the lucky three people that had they questions answered! Here's the whole things. (Eevee is me, duh! LB is Lauren Brooke's reply.)
"Q: Hi! I was wondering where Lauren Brooke got her inspiration for Ty in the books. I've read every book and I own them all! I can't put them down, sometimes. Ty, amazingly, maintained his awesomely awesome character up until "Beyond The Horizon." Then he just acted... odd. And I was also wondering if Amy and Ty will ever get back together. If not, will Amy date Matt, Will, or someone else?
- Eevee
LB: Ty was created as a counterpoint for Amy, who’d grown up in a relatively privileged home surrounded by horses and with talented, supportive parents who helped her pursue her equestrian dreams. In contrast, Ty’s family doesn’t have any connections with horses so Ty is pursuing a solo passion, sometimes with outright hostility from his father who thinks he should find a “proper” career. Ty doesn’t have any formal training, but shares Amy’s instincts for helping horses in a gentle, natural way, which makes them a perfect team. However, no one stays the same all through their life, and Ty was bound to change with the new pressures that keep life at Heartland so challenging. As for him and Amy getting back together, well, a troubled relationship is much more interesting to read and write about than one that doesn’t hit any obstacles!"
Haha! If you paid close attention to the last sentence, you'd realize she said "hit obstacles" and all obstacles can be overcome in time. Have faith! Heartland is not ruined! Lauren just likes to makes us think she destroyed the Tamy relationship! Hallelujah! -dances and celebrates- You don't know how freaking happy I am!"
That was me asking that question and LB IS REALLY Lauren Brooke herself. That's good proof that Amy and Ty will get back together at some point, and Heather, Will, Pasta Sauce man(nickname for Alfredo) are just a 'few obstacles' they're hitting. =]
Really, does Ty actually strike you as someone who would let a girl replace his best friend because he doesn't love Amy any more His friends, Heather, their relationship. All sure-fire signs that he's going through some sort of emotional pain(which I can understand), and he just needs someone there for him. |
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Post by rainpaint on Aug 7, 2008 20:34:25 GMT -5
I really do like that way of looking at things, Eevee. I do wish that Lauren Brooke would write something from Ty's POV /shivers with glee/ so that we could better understand this whole thing with Heather. That makes a LOT of sense! I'd just rather read about it and know for sure, rather than speculate.
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Post by Cem on Aug 8, 2008 4:36:20 GMT -5
Yeah when I first read that question and answer, I thought the same thing, about them ending up back together. It gives me hope!
And I totally believe Heather is a filler, but like rainpaint, I want to read it in a published book! I want it to be real so everyone knows it. lol
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Post by Eevee on Aug 8, 2008 15:45:01 GMT -5
I agree. Nothing would be any better than reading from Ty's POV or read about Heather's filler-ness. ^^
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Post by Cem on Aug 8, 2008 16:33:43 GMT -5
hehe mine too! I've always wanted a better look in to Ty's head! Would be really interesting.
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